tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8163916.post114148489643853977..comments2023-12-03T03:43:26.162-05:00Comments on Out of the Woodwork: CAN POETRY MATTER debate -- PART 3 1/2 of 4Brian Campbellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17182888011015400963noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8163916.post-1142310759822046522006-03-13T23:32:00.000-05:002006-03-13T23:32:00.000-05:00Thanks again, pal. Always good with the protocol....Thanks again, pal. Always good with the protocol.Brian Campbellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17182888011015400963noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8163916.post-1142287497776286552006-03-13T17:04:00.000-05:002006-03-13T17:04:00.000-05:00for accents, by the way, you can just code things ...for accents, by the way, you can just code things out:<BR/><BR/>á = á<BR/>í = í<BR/>ó = ó<BR/>À = À<BR/>ñ = ñ<BR/>ç = ç<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.starr.net/is/type/htmlcodes.html" REL="nofollow">more here</A>A. D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/13356106957900416900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8163916.post-1142287085855761612006-03-13T16:58:00.000-05:002006-03-13T16:58:00.000-05:00well shoot, here (i hope this shows up correctly)...well shoot, here (i hope this shows up correctly):<BR/><BR/>Aquí pasaba a pie por estas calles,<BR/>sin empleo ni puesto y sin un peso.<BR/>Sólo poetas, putas y picados<BR/>conocieron sus versos.<BR/><BR/>Nunca estuvo en el extranjero.<BR/>Estuvo preso.<BR/>Ahora está muerto.<BR/>No tiene ningún monumento...<BR/><BR/>Pero<BR/>recordadle cuando tengáis puentes de concreto,<BR/>grandes turbinas, tractores, plateados graneros,<BR/>buenos gobiernos.<BR/><BR/>Porque él purificó en sus poemas el lenguaje de su pueblo,<BR/>en el que un día se escribirán los tratados de comercio,<BR/>la Constitución, las cartas de amor,<BR/>y los decretos.A. D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/13356106957900416900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8163916.post-1142267251136459822006-03-13T11:27:00.000-05:002006-03-13T11:27:00.000-05:00Thanks AD. Only today I saw past the questionmark...Thanks AD. Only today I saw past the questionmarks and felt the depths of that poem. (Como el poema es sobre el lenguage y la comunicacion, es un poco ironico no que haya estos errores tipigraficos, no? Even here I can't put the foreign accents & characters where I want them... )Brian Campbellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17182888011015400963noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8163916.post-1142006903541431442006-03-10T11:08:00.000-05:002006-03-10T11:08:00.000-05:00what i take to be one of cardenal's "can poetry ma...what i take to be one of cardenal's "can poetry matter?" poems: <BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.cancioneros.com/index.php?MH=nc.php?NM=1932%26PHPSESSID=6f612c9f9e4be64c33598742359b1a27" REL="nofollow">Epitafio para Joaquín Pasos</A>A. D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/13356106957900416900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8163916.post-1141764685977862302006-03-07T15:51:00.000-05:002006-03-07T15:51:00.000-05:00Actually, Simon, I sensed that you were using the ...Actually, Simon, I sensed that you were using the title as a counterpoint to the content of the poem, also to shed light on elements therein (i.e. the New Americans) -- always a more creative way to title a work than simply choosing an obvious word or line. <BR/><BR/>Your response to Gioia's work is precisely mine to most pop songs, i.e. Celine Dion. I feel I'm *supposed* to feel moved when I'm not, and this makes me feel very alone. It's all a question of what Ciardi calls the sympathetic contract, which is, of course, highly relative.Brian Campbellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17182888011015400963noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8163916.post-1141748232703658322006-03-07T11:17:00.000-05:002006-03-07T11:17:00.000-05:00We had a debate on MySpace on an offshoot of this ...We had a debate on MySpace on an offshoot of this question lately. It started with my question re how many people read poetry besides other poets? Yes, an old question, but one worth looking at again from time to time with different voices taking part in the discussion. I enjoyed reading your take on this.Prishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03970753027686923295noreply@blogger.com